AMbomb wrote:A zygote is a single celled organism. If you want to outlaw the killing of single celled organisms you have to outlaw the use of disinfectants.
JackalJedi wrote:How old are you, AMBomb? Do you have any experience with women? Or childbirth? You have an awfully strong pro-abortion stand for someone who doesn't seem to know very much about childbirth? When I say, "experience with women", I'm not talking about sex - I'm talking about actually being a part of a woman's life (including her cycles).
Very few women ever know they are pregnant. Only the paranoid/delusional freaks who decided not to use "protection" that one time and rush right out and get a pill or a test. Most women are a little more at ease, and only begin to suspect they are pregnant once they are late. I would think someone as opinionated as you would be a little more aware of this.
And even the freaks, once they discover they are pregnant, run around in a daze for weeks trying to decide what to do, eventually tell the guy (usually in hopes of reeling in him - which rarely works), and after he hits the road, then decides to abort - that is, if the scumbag doesn't try to talk her into it first, offering to pay to coverup his crime. By the time someone actually makes an appointment with an abortion clinic it is usually well after six weeks, usually pushing the end of the first trimester.
And I think it is awfully childish and frankly, quite stupid of you, to contrast a zygote with bacteria. There is a world of difference, which is somewhat obvious to most civilized, non-barbaric people, but I'll go ahead and explain here, just in case some young person actually thinks you had a valid point for a moment.
First, the zygote has potential - in the environment it is found (the womb) it will grow into something resembling you. Put another way, you were once a zygote. The bacteria will never amount to anything other than more bacteria. Kind of obvious, but....
Second, the zygote is an environment created for the development of all human life. The zygote is not a threat to anyone, despite what career-minded, cold-blooded representatives of Planned Parenthood might claim. Bacteria, of course, is often a threat, and is not in an environment created for the development of human life. The good bacteria might be, but I assume you are talking about the kind we kill with Lysol.
And of course, also quite obviously, no one is arguing about whether or not zygotes are okay to abort. In case you aren't aware of the position of the side that you claim to be on - it is to say that all abortions up until the moment of natural birth should be legal. If you are positing (and baiting) that pro-lifers won't concede a "zygote" abortion because their position is that all life is created from the moment of conception and that therefore we would not concede to those first six weeks.... if that is what you are baiting us with, trust me on these two things: First, I'd sign that bill in a heartbeat (no pun intended) despite my beliefs. Overnight, the abortion industry would cease to exist. And of course, second, the pro-abortion lobby would never, ever, in a million trillion years allow such a bill to be conceded because of my first point - they would evaporate the very next day.
So, it is a rather illogical and foolish point you make - which is why I go back to my first question - how old are you? Throughout, I've had the feeling that we've been chatting with someone in the junior high to high school age range who is very argumentative and who has been fed a little bit of knowledge (you know what they say about that), but who doesn't seem to have much real experience with life itself.
ktfrogg wrote:Why, in Ex. 21:22-25, is only a fine paid for a miscarriage, and execution (life for life; nephesh for nephesh) required if the woman dies? It is because the unborn has not yet received the "breath of life" (through its nostrils - see Genesis 2:7).
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